Monetize Your Book with a Course: Interview with Dr. Lucas Marino

Monetize Your Book with a Course: Interview with Dr. Lucas Marino

If you’ve got a book, you need a course to go with it. Here’s my interview with the man who can help you do that, Dr. Lucas Marino, author of Monetize Your Book with a Course.

When you write a book, you’re making promises to your readers.

This will be worth your time. This will help you solve a problem. This will teach you to…

Even when your book delivers on those promises–even when that transformation is life-changing–you still only make a small portion of that $15 the person paid for your book.

But what if you had a course to go with your book? Well, then your book could show people that you are able to help them. The book becomes the calling card for the course, and you teach the same things for more money. If you’ve ever wondered how to do that, Dr. Lucas Marino’s How to Monetize Your Book with a Course is for you.

Write the book, and you’ve done the hardest part.

You’ve already done the hard work of research, organizing your information, and creating the content in written form. Even though the format of your course is different, the content remains roughly the same. Even better, you can hone it to meet the specific needs of your right fit client.

Once you’ve done the book, a course can be the next logical step for that ideal client. That’s great for you, because the course will naturally cost more than the book. And, once you’ve done the production work, most of the course fees belong to you.

Lucas says one mistake authors make creating a course is they sink too much into production costs before the course is proven. You don’t have to go all out. You can create a course with your smartphone camera, some lights, and a good microphone. If you keep production simple, you’re free to iterate as you find out what works for your clients.

They’re buying an outcome, the potential to reach an outcome. They’re not buying your course, they’re buying that opportunity.

Just like the people who buy your book, the people who buy your course are buying it to get an outcome. They have a problem, and your book (and your course) can help them solve their problem. You don’t have to (and shouldn’t) give them anything they don’t need to solve that problem. That’s another mistake course creators make.

Lucas says, “The worst thing you can do is overwhelm the learner with complexity, and actually make it harder for them to achieve results. Because they’ll leave dissatisfied. They won’t refer your course to people, and they’ll never achieve the outcome that you set to give them.”

Courses don’t all follow the same format.

There are many ways to deliver a course. Lucas says audio is quickly becoming the go-to format for many, because we live such busy lives. “If you have a book and you have a popular audio book, you could create an audio course which has a lot of downloadable, or printable content accompanied by audio files that take them through the whole deal.”

If you don’t want to be on video, you can create an audio-only course or a course that uses animation or slideshows with narration. People learn in different ways, and you can create courses in different ways. Lucas can guide you through the process.

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Monetize, but measure success by your client’s wins.

Of course, you want your course to be profitable. But Lucas says focusing on the money first can actually hurt you. It’s the same with your course as it is with your book–your first job is to serve your clients. Decide what your students need to be able to do after taking your course, and make everything in your course support that transformation.

“Success is people enjoy the course, they consume it, they share it with other people. The financial benefits of that is a byproduct of that experience.”

Hopefully, with your book, you identified your ideal reader. That person now becomes your ideal student. If you’re a coach or a consultant, you have a built-in audience. Your course takes a place in your product pyramid along with your book and your other products and services. Everything, at every level of that pyramid, serves your client. everything is about helping them get that transformation they’re after.

As your students succeed, so will you.


Lucas Marino, D.Eng, PMP, is an author and entrepreneur. He is the founder of Marino Training, EAST Partnership, and co-founder of the Empire Builder’s Masterclass. Lucas helps entrepreneurs and authors launch and sustain online training products. He is a Thinkific Expert, host of the Conversations for Course Creators podcast, and author of MONETIZE YOUR BOOK WITH A COURSE. A military engineer by experience, he spent 21-years as a naval engineer and training manager in the United States Coast Guard.

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Writing Books, an Interview with Kent Sanders

Writing Books, an Interview with Kent Sanders

Kent is the author of 18 Words to Live By: A Father’s Wisdom on What Matters Most,   and The Artist’s Suitcase: 26 Essentials for the Creative Journey, and co-author of Performance-Driven Giving: The Roadmap to Unleashing the Power of Generosity in Your Life.  He recently collaborated with Billy Stanley for The Faith of Elvis

In this episode, we explore:

  • Ghostwriting & collaboration
  • The process of writing a book
  • Building a business on your own terms
  • Different book structures
  • Mentor books
  • One thing we can do today to improve our writing

Kent is a wonderful teacher, and you can learn more from him through the Daily Writer Podcast or join us in the Daily Writer Club.

Links are affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive compensation (at no extra cost to you). Thank you.

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Joyful Copy: Interview with Joy Capps

Joyful Copy: Interview with Joy Capps

Joy Capps is the author of Joyful Copy—How to Show Up in the Marketplace Ethically and Authentically. We chatted about the book and how as Christians we can look to God for the ultimate in best practices.

Joy Capps helps entrepreneurs and business owners create ethical copy & use values-based business coaching to connect with customers authentically. We chatted about her new book, Joyful Copy–How to Show Up in the Marketplace Ethically and Authentically.

There are a lot of copywriting formulas and blueprints, and many ways to reach your audience. But not all ways line up with what we know to be ethical and true. Joy created her Joyful Copy framework to help us write marketing copy that isn’t slimy. Based on Galatians 5:22-23 and Philippians 4:8, her framework filters best practices of copywriting through the teachings of the Bible.

We talked about:

  • The Joyful Copy Framework
  • Is there even such a thing as ethical copywriting?
  • How blindly following the gurus can lead us down a slippery slope
  • Asking God lead our work vs asking Him to bless our work
  • What she hopes happens as a result of this book
  • A life lesson from her father
  • Book release


Connect with Joy at
Instagram – @joycappswrites

Get the book – Joyful Copy–How to Show Up in the Marketplace Ethically and Authentically on Amazon, or at

Flamingo Marketing Mindset with Katie Hornor

Flamingo Marketing Mindset with Katie Hornor

My interview with Katie Hornor, author of Flamingo Marketing: How to Leverage Unique, Stay Relevant and Change the World.

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Katie Hornor believes Christians can have strong faith, a good testimony in the marketplace, AND a successful business. She has helped thousands of faith-filled business owners through her books, courses, conferences, and coaching.

Her new book, Flamingo Marketing: How to Leverage Unique, Stay Relevant, and Change the World, is filled with tips for blending your faith authentically and gracefully into your business and marketing practices.

Your beliefs are central to everything you do, and it doesn’t change when you put on your marketing hat.

Katie Hornor

Some of the biggest hurdles we face as entrepreneurs are in our own minds, and she tackles those the myths that hold us back from being the unique gift to the world that God created us to be. In this interview, Katie and I discussed:

  • Why you need to leverage your uniqueness (be a flamingo!)
  • Why mindset is so important
  • Doing hard things
  • Time management
  • Leaving a legacy
  • Details on the book

You don’t want to miss Flamingo Marketing: How to Leverage Unique, Stay Relevant, and Change the World and all of Katie Hornor’s tips for blending your faith authentically and gracefully into your business and marketing practices. Click here to order your free book (you just pay shipping) by July 13 and get some fun bonuses too!

This is Katie’s third appearance on the podcast – catch our earlier conversations:


The Power of Play: A Year of Playing Catch, with Ethan Bryan

The Power of Play: A Year of Playing Catch, with Ethan Bryan

What happens when you play catch every day for a year? Ethan Bryan played 365 days of catch, and now he’s sharing what he learned about the sacredness of play, finding meaningful connections, and being fully present.

The Power of Play - Interview with Ethan Bryan

Ethan Bryan played catch on New Year’s Day with his daughters. Then they had an idea. “Dad, what if you played catch every day for an entire year?”

That’s 365 days of catch! It’s 500 catch partners, 10 states, and 12,000 miles, rain, wind, and snow. It’s about play, letting our guard down, and connecting with each other.

Do you have a story about how play connected you to something bigger?


A Year of Playing Catch: What a Simple Daily Experiment Taught Me About Life, by Ethan Bryan

Listen to my earlier interview with Ethan, when he was just starting this journey: Baseball and Storytelling

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